Pensioners Issues–Many a sips between cup and the lips:

It’s a sort of a renaissance period going on in relation to pensioners issues and every time a clinch to the problems look imminent some hurdle or the other jumps to the scene and it appears as if there is no end to such impediments. In reply to some of the enthusiasts, KR Saini has given a clarification that reads like this:

    ….,AS YOU ARE AWARE THAT FOR COMPUTATION OF PENSION PURPOSE BASIC PAY,PROFESSIONAL QULIFICATION PAY AND FIXED PERSONAL PAY ARE TO BE TAKEN.HOWEVER,NEITHER IN THE COMMITTE’S REPORT NOR IN THE APPROVAL LETTER THERE IS MENTIONED OF P.Q.P ANDF.P.P.SIR, WHILE CONVEYING APPROVAL OF REVISION OF PENSION FOR 8TH BIPARTITE RETIREES THIS TYPE OF MISTAKE OCCURED NOT INCLUDING F.P.P INTHE FIRST INSTACE AND ON TAKING UP BY THE BANK F.P.P WAS ALSOKRSaini INCLUDED FOR PENSION PURPOSE TO 8TH BIPARTITE RETIREES.IN THIS CONNECTION KINDLY REFER TO WEB SITE OF SBI PENSIONERS’ ASSOCIATION(MUMBAI)PUNE (BANK’S CIRCULAR) AT SERIAL NO4.SIMILARLY IN THE CASE OF 9TH BIPARTITE RETIREES P.Q.P AND F.P.P HAS NOT BEEN  INCLUDED FOR PENSION PURPOSE IN THE FIRST INSTANCE BY THE BANK.LATERON BY TAKING UP THE MATTER WITH GOVERNMENT THIS MISTAKE WAS ALSO RECTIFIED.IN THIS CONNECTION,KINDLY REFER CIRCULARS AT SERIAL NO 32 AND  34  OF THE WEB SITE OF SBI PENSIONERS’ ASSOCIATION (MUMBAI)PUNE.

         FURTHER,I HAVE TO ADVISE THAT ALL INDIA STATE BANK OFFICERS’ FEDERATION HAS ALREADY TAKEN UP  THIS ISSUE IMMEDIATELY WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF S.BI FOR INCLUDING P.Q.P AND F.P.P FOR PENSION   PURPOSE VIDE CIRCULAR NO 42.WE ARE REQUISTING THAT OUR PENSIONERS’ FEDERATION SHOULD ALSO TAKE UP THE MATTER IMMEDIATELY WITH S.B.I FOR RECTIFICATION  FOR   CALCULATION OF REVISED PENSION TO 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES BY INCLUDING P.Q.P AND F.P.P.KINDLY DO REPLY ME.


 

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Pension issues in SBI–an expression:


pensionerMirza Ghalib was, like Keats in English, a poet of romance and had nothing to do with politics or governance but what he wrote impliedly or otherwise applies quite much to the people in general in their life on this earth. An unending wait for the verdict on grievance used to be a valid ground for punishment for delay so caused at the level of the Qazees, the then magistrates in olden times. Much above Paleolithic age, we are greatly civilised a society today claiming to be ultra modern but certain practices like those in Law appear to be not only outmoded but utterly out of date with thousands and thousands of the victims groaning with pain for an awful delay in timely delivering the requisite judgment –for example Pensioners case in State Bank of India where nothing could be done by the courts even after a lapse of decades. This is all brutally callous. Wait and wait till eternity is the scenario. The pangs of pain like Ghalib said as quoted below equally apply to the victim pensioners knowing no end. Possibly a maga revolution is the need:

आह को चाहिए एक उम्र असर होने तक

कौन जीता है तेरी ज़ुल्फ़ के सर होने तक। 


NOTE ON THE EXTRACT FROM BANK’S LETTER….


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A lot has been written by K R. Saini on the topic with the first line starting as above covering vital areas in relation to Pension Issues. This a running series 3 parts of which have already been published including one link on this blog and the 4th one is in the pipeline to be followed by a few more. The series is quite important from the view point of coverage of latest developments and retirees, the pensioners and the readers in general are earnestly called upon to peruse the contents as a whole of the series with the requisite attention. The remaining posts follow shortly.

Pension issues in SBI–K R Saini foresees some ray of hope:


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Keshav Saini

to murthy, ramachandrapp, antony, Atam, babu2609, Dhanabalan, me, neelrameshl, Narinder, rajkumarnegi, Lakshmanan, hganaiyer46, Brijmohan, Sampath, govinds65, veekg, satish.sukheja, Sudhir, sureshshobha40, menroygk, jpdatta, Jaspal, Jayakrishnan, Harbhajan, T.r.

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DEAR SIRS,I INVITE YOUR KIND ATTENTION TO THE DELHI HIGH COURT ORDER DATED 26.04.2016,WHICH IS SELF EXPLICIT.IN VIEW OF THE SERIOUSNESS/CONCERN ARGUED BY PENSIONERS’ LAWYERS TO OPPOSE THE ADJOURNMENT SOUGHT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA,WE SHOULD FEEL SATISFIED THAT THE CASE IS BEING HANDLED SATISFACTORILY.FURTHER DELHI HIGH COURT HAs given one last opportunity to the respondent to inform the court about the outcome OF THE DELIBERATION PARTICULARLY IN RESPECT OF S.B.I LETTER DATED 30.10.2002 ADDRESSED TO M.O.F.

    I SHALL BE GLAD IF YOU KINDLY ARRANGE TO FORWARD ME THE SAID LETTER FOR MY INFORMATION IF YOU ARE HAVING.

WITH BEST REGARDS.

K.R.SAINI


PS:Reproduction of the above contents are without any attachment and are unedited:

Pension issues in SBI–an extension to his predecessor post by K R Saini:

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krsaini commented on Pension issues in SBI–clarifying a confusion by K R Saini:

Keshav Saini 22 Apr (2 days ago) to Chandrasekharan, ramachandrapp, hganaiyer46, babu2609, me, murthy, T.r., govinds65, …

ONE OF AGE-OLD TRADITIONS FOR WHICH INDIA HAS BEEN KNOWN THE WORLD OVER IS RELATED TO THE VALUE WE ATTACH TO THE AGED AND OLD,THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN NEW GENERATIONS SO MUCH TO BUILD ON AND ENJOY IN LIFE.THE CONCEPT OF PENSION FOR EMPLOYEES AFTER THEIR RETIREMENT FROM ACTIVE SERVICE CAN BE VIEWED AS DERIVATIVE OF THIS TRADITION.
10881486_1016309615062877_1718043244602304723_n_thumbBUT WHAT ABOUT THE POLICY OF THE GOVERNMENT IN REGARD TO THE PENSIONERS OF STATE BANK OF INDIA? IT HARDLY REFLECTS AN ENLIGHTENED DEFINATION OF THE PENSIO SCHEME.THERE IS NO SOCIO-ECONOMIC JUSTICE BUT HUMILIATION ALL THE WAY FOR THOSE WHO ONCE CEASELESSLY TOILED AND GAVE THEIR BEST TO THE SYSTEM.
ONE OF THE ESTABLISHED RULES OF VTHE BANK ITSELF IS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE GETTING PENSION EQUIVALENT TO 50% OF VHIS OR HER LAST DRAWN SALARY.BUT THERDE ARE DIFFERENT GROUPS OF RETIREES.
THERE IS SOMETHING TERRIBLY WRONG INDEED WITH THE EXISTING POLICY ONTHE BANK PENSION.WE ARE DEMANDING EQUITY,FAIR PLAY AND NATURAL JUSTICE IN THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
THE PLIGHT OF OLD RETIREES (5TH,6TH AND 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES) IS NOT UPTO THE MARK THESE RETIREES ARE IN THE AGE GROUP OF 70 YEARS TO 90 YEARS AND THEYARE DRAWING PENSION ABOUT RS20000/PER MONTH IN THIS PERIOD OF HIGH INFLATION AND IN THEIR ADVANCED AGE AND SOME OF THEM ARE SICK.100% DA NEUTRALIZATION EFFECTIVE FROM 1.05.2005 TO 8TH BIPARTITE RETIREES AND SUBSEQUENTLY TO 9TH AND 10TH BIPARTITE RETIREES ALSO, HAS NOT BEEN EXTENDED TO THE OLD RETIREES(5TH,6TH AND 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES,)
K.R.SAINI

PS: The post is unaudited.

Pension issues in SBI–clarifying a confusion by K R Saini:


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Keshav Saini

22 Apr (2 days ago)

to Chandrasekharan, ramachandrapp, hganaiyer46, babu2609, me, murthy, T.r., govinds65, jpdatta, Brijmohan, rajkumarnegi, Jaspal, Sudhir, Atam, antony, srinivasan, Narinder, Harbhajan, menroygk, sureshshobha40, neelrameshl, sujoykumarghosh, Sampath, veekg

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DEAR SIRS,WHILE DISSCUSION BETWEEN SHRI P.P UPADHYAYA AND SHRI GANAPATHY IS VERY CONVINCING AND IMPRESSIVE AND ALSO VERY MEANING FUL .BOTH OF THEM ARE EXPERT IN LEGAL MATTERS AND I AM NOT LEGAL EXPERT IN THESE MATTERS.ANY HOW I AM ALSO TRYING TO MENTION IN THIS MATTER IN A SIMPLE LANGUAGE.
PROCEDURE ADOPTED FOR REVISION OF CEILING OF PAY FOR DETERIMATION OF PENSION AFTER EACH BIPARTITE SETTLEMENT IN STATE BANK OF INDIA AND 7th BIPARTITE RETIREES ISSUE AND OUR W.P(C)1875/2013 AT DELHI HIGH COURT——ARGUMENTS HELD ON 9.02.2O16 BY SENIOR  COUNSEL OF PENSIONERS’ FEDERATION.

  WHENEVER THE WAGE REVISION TAKES PLACE AFTER A BIPARTITE SETTTLEMENT,THE REVISION IN PENSION DOES NOT TAKES PLACE AUTOMATICALLY/IMMEDIATELY.IN THE CASE OF 7TH BIPARTITE SETTLEMENTAS PER 7TH BIPARTITE SETTLEMENT DATEED 27.03.2000.THE NEW PAY SCALES WERE GRANTED TO THE EMPLOYEES.HOWEVER,FOR THE PURPOSE OF CALCULATION OF PENSION,PAY SCALES AS PER 6TH BIPARTITE SETTLEMENT ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AS NECESSARY SANCTIONS WERE NOT ACCORDED.

         ALTHOUGH STATE BANK OF INDIA HAD RECOMMENDED TO M.O.F VIDE LETTER CDO/16/PM/SPL/344 DATE 26 TH JULY 2000 FOR REVISION OF PENSION FOR 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES.HOWEVER, WITHOUT WAITING THE SANCTION/APPROVAL FROM THE GOVERNMENT, BANK ISSUED  INSTRUCTIONS FOR PAYMENT OF REVISED PENSION VIDE CIRCULAR NO 34 DATED 31.10.2000.HOWEVER, BANK ISSUED REVISED INSTRUCTIONS AT 50%/40% FORMULA W.E.F 1.03.1999TO 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES WHICH WAS/IS MEANT FOR 6TH BIPARTITE RETIREES ALSO.

   NOW PENSIONERS’ FEDERATION COUNSEL IN THE W.P(C) 1875/2013 ARGUED ON 9TH FEBRUARY,2016 ON THESE POINTS.BUT M.O.F HAS CONSTITUTED A COMMITTEE FOR THE PENSION ISSUES IN S.B.I ,THE REPORT OF WHICH HAS NOT COME SO FAR.

                   LEGAL POSTION

THE LEGAL POSITION WOULD BE THAT IF POST SUPERANNUATED OF AN EMPLOYEE WAGES ARE INCREASED FROM A DATE,ANTERIOR FROM THE DATE OFSUPERANNUATION AND DIFFERENCIAL PAID .FOR COMPUTING PENSION WHILE INDEXING THE LAST 12 MONTHS DRAWN WAGES,THE PENSION WOULD HAVE TO BE RE-FIXED KEEPING IN VIEW THE INCREASED PAY ON THE SAME BEING REVISED.ITNEEDS TO BE MENTIONED THAT THE RETIREES BEING PAID SALARY AND ALLOWANCES AS PER THEIR REVISED SALARY AS PER 7TH BIPARTITE SETTLEMENT FROM 1.11.1997/1.04.1998.

      K.R.SAINI

Pension issues in SBI–an extract from Facebook: Source> CM Kapoor


images (10)The following is an extract from facebook provided to me by a bosom friend of mine C. M. Kapoor, a stalwart in banking arena and trade union movement. The extract so appended is self explanatory and warrants to be gone through its contents thoroughly. The pensioners, the retirees and the readers in general are called upon to strictly follow the last paragraph marked ## and see that the relative message reaches maximum possible number of people from general awareness angle. The fact that a galaxy of as  many as 21 advocates of Supreme Court of India have readily sponsored their services to the cause of pensioners free of cost is most important a lead and deserves applause as an acknowledgemnt. Let us all be sincerely thankful to them.

 
 
Chandra Mohan Kapoorto Neelkanth Neek

 

Sir, please see this article.
Banks Retirees : Supreme Court decision- 50% to all.

Sukhvinder Singh to All Banks Retirees Friends CLUB.
Agra, India ·
An imp msg received from Shri H. I. Jani, ( AGM rtrd. and Asso. Activist) frweded for info.
FOR INFORMATION OF ALL PENSIONERS
Forwarded as received:-
OROP.. LEGAL HELP..
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mr Dushyant Dave, President of Supreme Court Bar Association has said that all 21 Lawyers of the SCBA are ready to represent the Veterans in SC on OROP Pro- Bono (Pro-Bono means without cost to the applicant)
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE IN RETIRED BANKERS GOOGLE BLOG
Dear friends,
It is surprising that a land mark judgement delivered by the Supreme Court of India on 01 07 2015, Civil Appeal no. 1123 of 2015 has gone unnoticed and except for a brief letter from Shri S R Sen Gupta to IBA, no other union has taken any steps. The salient features of the judgement:
1. The bench has authoritatively ruled that Pension is a right and the payment of it does not depend upon the discretion of the Government. Pension is governed by rules and a Government Servant coming within those rules is entitled to claim pension.
2.The judgement has recognised that the revision of pension and revision of pay scales are INSEPARABLE.
3.The bench has reiterated that on revision the Basic pension cannot be less than 50% of the Basic Pension in the minimum of the Pay Band in the revised scale corresponding to the pre-revised scale.
4.The government CANNOT take a plea of financial burden to deny legitimate dues of the pensioners.
5.The Government SHOULD AVOID unwarranted litigation and not to encourage any litigation for the sake of litigation.
6. When pension is upheld to be a right and NOT A BOUNTY, as a corollary to the averment that revision of pension and revision of pay scales are INSEPARABLE, upgradation of pension is also a RIGHT AND NOT A BOUNTY.
THE JUDGEMENT IS BASED ON THE DECISION ON D S NAKARA CASE.
The above details are available in the latest issue of Canara Bank Retired Officer’s Association Circular no 3/2016 dated 1st August 2015.
The judgement is very clear and I wonder how no one has noticed the important aspects and why no one has taken up the matter with the IBA/Govt.
Why no one has reacted to the judgement is surprising and perplexing.
While agitation is on why can’t we take recourse to court also as Supreme Court advocates are offering their services. One ruling by SC that govt can’t deny pension for lack of funds regarding OROP every year and VRS case
Dear Citizens
##Forward this msg to a minimum of twenty people on your contact list; and in turn ask each of them to do likewise.
In three days, most people in India will have this message.
This is one idea that really should be passed around.
For information of all.